WHAT WAKES UP?

By Davidya.ca

When we’re speaking of spiritual awakening, it’s key to understand that it’s not a concept or something you can figure out with the mind. Such stories can obscure the reality because they create constructs in the mind that are not it. What reference points do we have when it’s not something that’s ever arisen, even in thousands of past lives?

Awakening is not an experience, it’s a change in being. It’s a shift in our reference point. A change in who we know ourselves to be.

As such, it is not the person that wakes up. In fact, we can be said to wake up From the person.

If we don’t understand this point, it can lead us to call many things “awakening” that are really just another experience. There are all sorts of experiences we might call spiritual that can be really nice, even life-changing.

But Self Realization? That’s a very different animal from any experience. It is a change in the thing that is experiencing, the experiencer itself.

The first key is that awakening is permanent. It does not come and go, even through sleep. It is a change in what we recognize ourselves as being. A change that means shifting from being a me to being cosmic – limitless, unchanging being.

But even there, there are distinctions to be made. We can have experiences of being cosmic that use memory to feel like it’s ongoing.

We can shift into the detached witness or observer (experiencer) that can bring many of the qualities of awakening. But it has to be more than awakeness for true liberation.

We can have an actual awakening but fall back into dominant mind for a time while the shift gets processed. I talked about some of these variations here.

What wakes up to what then?

You may have noticed that I used the word “being” a lot. The key shift I’m pointing to is that change in being, the I Am sense. With a true awakening, it is our very being, our very existence that wakes up to its own deeper nature.

Awakening is not I becoming aware that I Am. Rather, we shift from that possessive I-thought (my thoughts, my emotions, my body) to being boundless awareness observing those things.

We can say awareness wakes up to itself here. In other words, it has not just noticed itself (I have my consciousness, I Am) but cosmic or universal being has woken up to itself here.

It then progressively awakens in more and more layers of being leading to refined perception, Unity, and then to its nature beyond being in Brahman.

Funny thing though – however many ways I put this, it will never be understood by the mind because the mind is not what wakes up. But I continue to write these articles because they help make clear what it’s not. And they bring clarity to those who have actually woken up. And because sometimes, the right wording at the right time can be the catalyst that triggers the shift.

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DO HUMANS NEED TO GET OVER THEMSELVES?

 

rebeccaAmerican Dr. Rebecca Newberger Goldstein, scholar, popular, critically acclaimed real science ‘fusion’ novelist, graduated summa cum laude from Barnard College, receiving the Montague Prize for Excellence in Philosophy. She immediately went on to graduate work at Princeton University, receiving her Ph.D. in philosophy. (Photo: humanism.org.uk)

Dr Goldstein is quoted as suggesting, (in Goldstein, 2013,  Makeltultra.wordpress.com) that, “The impermanent nature of existence” might be a probable cause for people having something like the mystical experience of Reality (MER).

Comment:

I would be flattered at the thought that when I started having my experiences of Reality at the age of 15 years I was even aware of the existence of “the impermanent nature of existence” or any human need to deny it.

My experiences never suggested my human self had anything to do with the experiences of Reality I was being given.

On the contrary, my experiences suggest the human condition is an involuntary evolutionary phase on the way to a non human existence.

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IS MYSTICEXPERIENCES.NET MANIPULATIVE?

 

Q: Is this web page manipulative?

A: What makes you think that?

Q: Sometimes the page frustrates with explanations and ideas, answers that
are interesting but don’t address the point.

A: Most questioners really want agreement with their own conclusions.

Do they have the spiritual experience to see the whole picture?

Any answer to such wrong questions would be unhelpful if not downright misleading.

Also, many questions are not spiritual.

They’re based on human experience, needs, wants, attachments, morality and ethics, logic and reason, all veils between the human condition and spiritual Reality.

Many questions are from people who simply want to be better people, (according to the passing standards of the day).That’s not what Reality is about. That would be a spiritual digression …

The best way is to get people to experience the answer, at which point the question is irrelevant.

Q: Can you do that, get people to experience spiritual answers?

A: Not in my experience, no. But you can get them to the point where it might happen.

My own experiences were spontaneous. There used to be claims such experiences could be humanly induced. You don’t hear much about such claims nowadays.

Q: Then how do you answer questions?

A: I leave out a lot of what humans expect in an answer. I am provocative without explanation. The provocation of raised but unanswered questions can focus sincere Seekers’ thinking and contemplation.

I concentrate on the Reality aspect of the question too, not the human …

These unanswered enigmas make the questioner think a great deal more widely and deeply about spirituality and Reality.

This method can be fraught though. Many people just aren’t used to prolonged thinking, certainly not of the contemplative or meditational variety.

Others really prefer to accept what they’ve been told and learned from childhood.

So this method deliberately seeks to eliminate the merely curious, the social seekers, the spiritually negative, the uncalled, to sort the sheep from the goats.

Experience of Reality only comes to those who are ready for it, whether they seek it or not.

The real Seekers, what the Christian bible calls “the Blessed” who hunger and thirst after righteousness, are the ones who respond immediately, who are “caught, not taught”. They lighten my existence, humble and uplift me.

So, if raising what has been called “Cosmic Consciousness” by sharing the experience of Reality with deliberately provocative simplicity is manipulation, then yes – beware, this web page is manipulative.

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A LEADING WORLD PHILOSOPHER’S PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF REALITY

 

hick_200x272John Hick (1922—2012)

John Hick was arguably one of the most important and influential philosophers of religion of the second half of the twentieth century.

“As a British philosopher in the anglo-analytic tradition, Hick did groundbreaking work in religious epistemology, philosophical theology, and religious pluralism.” ~ Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

Hick, a prolific author of best-selling books still read at universities around the world, said he had, “… experience of a transcendental reality of some kind.”

It was “a brief but very, very vivid, unforgettable experience of transcendent meditating”.

The experience was “oneness”; “benign”, “friendly”, “wonderful”. He thought the experience was “meaning”, that the experience “is meaning.” He was against the idea of a personal God.

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The above was taken from an interview with Hick about “Ultimate Reality” in the PBS TV series, “Closer To Truth”. See the John Hick Centre for Philosophy of Religion, and his official website at Johnhick.org.uk

 

DEEPAK CHOPRA’S REALITY

 

“In everyday life, you get to experience the miracle of transformation that causes a three-dimensional spatial world and one-dimensional temporal world to manifest before your very eyes.

“The great advantage of experience is that it isn’t theoretical. Reality is never wrong, and all of us are embedded in reality, no matter what model we apply to explain it.

“Reality is waiting for us to creep closer to understanding its mysteries.

“In the meantime, it won’t falter or come to an end. Reality will remain our home, our source, and the ground state of our being far beyond the lifetime of the foreseeable universe.”

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deepakDeepak Chopra, MD is the author of more than 75 books with twenty-two New York Times bestsellers including What Are You Hungry For? His medical training is in internal medicine and endocrinology, and he is a Fellow of the American College of Physicians, a member of the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, and an adjunct professor of Executive Programs at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University.

INDIA AND SPIRITUAL REALITY – “Only Reality is constant, real and lasting.”

I didn’t answer your other questions so now here are my belated answers:

Q:  The author states that the spiritual lethargy and poverty of India reflects centuries of meditation.The yogi goes inward to still the mind and his goal is to attain bliss and joy and become one with GOD, unaware that union with God is not possible.

A:  The whole point of existence and meditation is personal realisation of oneness with Reality. This leads to surrender and spiritual discrimination, a different attitude to poverty versus material “richness”, for instance

So far as the assertion that union with “God” is not possible is concerned, I have experienced Reality many times and know Reality is far bigger than “God” or gods or human ambitions and goals and that union with it is all life is about.

Despite what we generally see, hear and feel as humans, not all here is what it seems. Reality is winning. All is well.

By the way, the aforementioned fruits of oneness like bliss and joy are just two of many gifts of the Experience. They’re spiritual gifts, not ephemeral worldly objects of human want.

Q:  Then the author continues: It is within the destiny of Soul however, to become a Co-worker with God and enter into the true realm of heaven.

A:  No.

Is this pure, mistaken human ego and ignorance? There is no evidence, experiential or experimental, for such an assertion.

Reality doesn’t need humans. It draws us to Itself. It can’t be commanded, invoked, evangelised or proselytised, in my experience. It is caught, not taught or thought.

Q:  Do you think there is any truth to his belief that the present state of India has been effected by meditation versus contemplation?

A:  The author’s declaration of the “present state of India” sounds as if the author is referring to India’s worldy, non spiritual, contemporary state we know from the news. The wordly state has nothing to do with spirituality.

Individual Indians however are in evolutionary spiritual transition, like us, and their experience of Reality is ancient and has made them fatalistic, surrendering to mankind’s unstoppable spiritual evolution into Reality.

(They tend to “let go and let god whereas we try to use “God” as a magic spell to deliver our wordly wants).

Indian culture has traditionally been unimpressed by the western world’s realities, while western culture has become more and more materialistic.

All earthly anchored cultures are dying,  dead ends.

Only Reality is constant, real and lasting.

Mankind as such may or may not survive the transition into Reality but it doesn’t matter. There is more than being merely human.

Reality is in charge. All is well, as your meditation will reveal if you persist, (or if Reality doesn’t get you first …).

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