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“CLEVER” MER IS NOT A SCIENCE

 

The mystical experience of Reality is not a human science. It isn’t reproducible, as science demands. It does reproduce, but not by human will or experimentation.

For some as yet unknown reason the phenomena is guarded by a ‘key’ made only available to some humans throughout human history who seem not to have any discernible qualification to experience this increasingly scientifically studied phenomena. (Eg., over six thousand case histories were archived by Oxford University and are now archived under a Templeton grant at Wales University). This ‘key’ is: The Mystical Experience of Reality (MER), the EXPERIENCE being the ‘key’

The Experience seems to be fully guarded by the absolute necessity to experience It. Clever.

Everything else but this personal experience is a distraction, a contaminant, I.e.: Conjecture, experiment, logic, reason, books, courses, lectures, studies, practices, religions, foolishness, mythomania, charlatanry and dogma, even being sincere though sincerely wrong.

There is much confusion between understanding the difference between the human spirit and the Ultimate Spirit of Reality. Each are entirely different in my mystical experiences. In many ways the human spirit spins the veils between the two.

Some think that on the growing evidence, the human condition is getting more spiritually evolved as intended. So will science eventually join the exterminated by then anyway?

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FREE WILL AND FULL POTENTIAL? Answering your Calling.

Most humans won’t reach their full potential or achieve spiritual free will.
Does this explain the perennial state of human agitations, disappointments and struggles?
Science can’t deliver either attribute. Science isn’t in the same reality. Nor will any human effort, if the mystic experience is to be believed.
Humans have free will only within their developing human attributes, as dung beetles etc. have their free will within theirs. But in spiritual Reality free will does not exist, is redundant, in my experience.
Mystics on the other hand do achieve their current potential but for them free will is not an option or a consideration – they are Reality, where free will is irrelevant.
Mystics are emptied of their humaness to the point of human invisibility, (interestingly, a Sufi teaching tradition). They are free and as fully developed to their potential here as they can be. Even if mystics announce themselves, most humans are not developed enough to understand they exist. So that’s why mysticism remains largely invisible, non mainstream, whatever characteristics it adopts. However, scholars, theologians, scientists and philosophers etc. know the mystical experience of Reality (MER) exists and have even suggested mystics are, for example, “a new species”, the leading edge of human evolution, or “the better part” of spirituality.
So why can’t everyone achieve mystic status?
There is no evidence mystic fulfillment can be taught, only caught. Teachings don’t help though they might induce numinousness, empathetic secular enlightenment but only as a pale, insubstantial shadow of the real thing.
So the question has to be asked: Is human evolution impeded by a humanity so full of itself there’s no room left for what mystics are given freely?
My experience suggests there are those others who are spontaneously beset by an indescribable but undeniable yearning for the ineffablility of the numinous; Seekers. If you are a Seeker you might find solace in the following four suggestions I have identified as

ANSWERING YOUR CALLING:

  1. Serve humanity by being legal, decent and honest, nothing more. This starts to simplify life, to focus it.

2. Carry out worldly duties and responsibilities (ie. as a parent, relative, neighbour, colleague, citizen) for as long as you can. (These attachments might never completely disappear at first but will assume their proper spiritual perspective eventually).
3. “Let go” of everything else, even #2 above when the time comes.
4. A tip: If you can describe yourself at the end of your life you’ve not achieved anything relevant; so simplify now so that that which is answering your Calling/Seeking finds space in the real you. Shed the unnessary elements of your life as you’re taken to your deepest, truest self, where everything falls into place effortlessly – axiomatically, automatically.
Does this work?

If it doesn’t work, will most humans ever reach their full potential or remain bogged down in the limits of human freewill?

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INNER DETACHMENT AND ISOLATION – The mystic in a nutshell?    

“The feeling of inner detachment and isolation is not in itself an abnormal phenomenon but is normal in the sense that consciousness has withdrawn from the phenomenal world and got outside time and space.

“The development … is the meaning and purpose of all life’s wisdom to go along with natural developments that spring from the functioning of the whole personality.”

From Carl Jung by lewislafontaine

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SCIENCE ON THE WAY OUT?

The thought occurred to me that science will eventually devolve into mere technology, possibly with fringe philosophical affiliations.

It will feel at home there where only matter can be experimented with, not spirit.
Spirit is exclusively represented by the mystical experience of Reality, MER, which is probably not even exclusive to humans, and anyway only accessible by experience not experiment.
Probably this is not a new revelation, though it’s not yet as mainstream as it will become.
Mystical experiences.net. 2018

ULTIMATE REALITY – male or female?

 

In my 15 years of experiencing the mystical experience of Reality, (MER), several times a year I never came across anything masculine or feminine in the experiences – there were no names in this simple perfection – everything just was and I was that.

There was nothing hermaphrodite in my experiences either, though that too, like gender, is a real material condition here on earth.

So my impression is that neither gender, sex nor even being human have anything to do with the Mystical Experience of Reality as I experienced It, not even with the human adulterated word, “spirituality” in all its forms.

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THE SECRET PASSWORD TO MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE

The most secret password in the known Universe is needed to reveal the mystical experience of Reality (MER).

This password is:
“EXPERIENCE”.
That’s the good news. The bad news is:
The password is caught, not taught, not given nor bought. You can’t achieve this state of being, this state of Reality beyond the merely human, without it being caught). And no cryptologist in the world can crack the code!
Why is the experience of Reality hidden?
Presumably because most humans don’t have the attributes that qualify them to receive it yet. Or perhaps they’re unaware of this unrealised power they have? Maybe humans can’t be trusted with this Apple? Or their current state of development is too primitive for them to understand, or have any use to developed Reality yet?
The good news:
Mystics aver every human has a profound yearning for the infinite joy and acceptance that is the core of the mystic experience of reality (MER). It expresses itself strongly or weakly but irresistibly like a plant growing through concrete … It can be recognised when it surfaces in Seekers and Mystics. Otherwise it lies dormant or unrecognised, unacknowledged, never sleeping!
If you Google ‘Mysticism’ the historical and current references from all over the world seem to never end, that’s how pervasive this fundamental aspect of the human condition is, compared to human science, history, pyschology, religion, medicine, literature or ideologies, isms and politics – all extinguishable as the Reality of the mystic experience never is, guarded as it is by the most secret password in the known Universe …
Mysticalexperiences.net. 2018

SUFI “WILD UTTERANCES”

“We give out strange phrases to ordinary people because our experiences cannot be put in their ordinary phrases. I have known that which cannot be described, through and through, and that which is in it overwhelms all ordinary definition.” – Ibn Atta, Sufi.

From The Way of the Sufi by Idries Shah. Iries Shah is the late thinker, writer, and teacher in the Sufi mystical tradition. He wrote over three dozen books on topics ranging from psychology and spirituality to travelogues and culture studies. The Idries Shah Foundation (ISF) is an independent educational and cultural charity, set up by his family to ensure his spiritual works live on.

SPIRITUALITY VS RELIGION: THE FUTURE OF TRUTH AND MEANING

 

This is a Reblog of a post by Giovanni Dienstmann (See the original post here)

This Reblog is a precise but comprehensive assessment, a clear recognition of the essence of humanity’s evolution.

 

As a child and teenager, I never had any interest in religion—yet later on I discovered that I had in me the inclination to become a deeply spiritual man. That inclination was not being triggered by the religious dogmas and practices that I was exposed to, so I felt it simply wasn’t for me. At that time I was not aware of the distinctions of spirituality vs religion.

I grew up in a regular, mildly religious middle-class family. My parents identified themselves as Christians, but they didn’t really go to church. My dad wanted me to go through catechism classes, but he never forced me to—I just attended one, because he insisted, but felt no pull to continue. For me, religion was something boring and lifeless, something that old people did.

On the other hand, once I discovered spirituality, it fired me up in life. It gave me meaning, direction and purpose. It helped me to grow as a person. It gave me tools to overcome the worst in myself, to develop myself, and to explore the transcendental aspects of our existence.

The fire for spirituality—for deeper meaning, direction and truth—is inherent in all people. For some of us, it is drowned by cynicism, skepticism, and scientific materialism; for others, it is expressed in limiting ways through a blind religious faith. Happy are those who recognize and own this drive, keeping it pure and letting it guide their lives in a constructive way.

There can be spirituality without religion, religion without spirituality, and religion and spirituality together—it depends on what you want, and how you approach it.

In this article I will compare and contrast religion and spirituality, exploring the differences and similarities between them. The goal is not to put anyone down, but to bring clarity as to the differences, so you can follow your spirituality in the most empowering way possible for you—linked to a specific religion or not.

Spirituality vs Religion

Spirituality vs Religion: The Future of Truth and MeaningWhat is religion, and what is spirituality? They have a common subject-matter, but their approaches are very different.

Both religion and spirituality teach that there is more to the universe than what meets the eye, and more to our life than the physical body. Both agree that there are non-physical elements to the universe, and to our existence, and that unless we consciously connect with them, we will never be truly fulfilled in life.

The core difference between religion and spirituality is that religion presents you a set of beliefs, dogmas and “holy men” as intermediaries between you and Spirit (however you may name it); while spirituality promotes your individual autonomy in defining and connecting to Spirit as it fits your heart and mind.

As I mentioned above, religion and spirituality can be together. Many people find spirituality inside their religion, and for them these differences may not be so relevant or true, since the two things are mixed. But for those interested in pure spirituality, regardless of religious affiliation, let me expand on the difference between religion and spirituality in a quote:

Religion asks you to believe. Spirituality asks you to look.

Religion has dogmas. Spirituality has wisdom teachings.

Religion wants obedience. Spirituality wants experimentation.

Religion speaks of sin and hell. Spirituality speaks of karma.

Religion wants to comfort you. Spirituality wants to liberate you.

Religion is external. Spirituality is internal.

Religion is the form. Spirituality is the essence.

Religion wants to convert you. Spirituality wants to inspire you.

Religion is an institution. Spirituality is a journey.

Religion promotes shame and guilt. Spirituality promotes self-honesty and awareness.

Religion asks you to sacrifice your present attachments for a promised future. Spirituality asks you to let go of your present attachments for a better present.

Spirituality is the true essence, and the true origin, of every religious movement. So how is it that eventually spirituality gets the back seat, and what we are mostly left with are dogmas and empty rituals?

Buddha was not Buddhist; Jesus was not Christian. They were highly realized spiritual men; they were spiritual but not religious! They had a group of disciples who were also, in great part, moved by a spiritual search. But as centuries pass, as the groups start increasing and social acceptance grows, people who are not really burning with that spiritual drive start joining in and redefining the movement.

They join because it feels noble to do so, or because their parents expect, or because they were born poor and at least in the church/monastery there are meals every day. Or maybe they just needed the consolation and comfort that religion can give, to find shelter from the suffering of life, and a respectable position in society.

This is not a criticism nor a judgment of character, but just a description of how, by becoming more popular and accepted by society, the spiritual element of each religious movement gets watered down or distorted, and what is left is a social institution. Teachings become dogmas, principles become moral rules, spiritual practice becomes ritual, experiences become stories—in short, spirituality becomes religion. What was once private and intimate becomes a social institution.

The difference between religion and spirituality is not so much about what you believe—but about how you live, and what is your attitude. In any of the spiritual/religious traditions on Earth, you will find a majority of people who follow it as a religion, and a minority who follows it as a spiritual path.

Both religion and spirituality have their function in the world; but they are usually different things for different people. Understanding their differences helps to define what you are practicing, and if it is serving you well.

Spirituality in the Age of Science

Since the time of the European Enlightenment in the 17th century, the role and dominion of religion seem to be steadily diminishing (at least in the western world). Since we entered the so-called “age of reason”, with the ability of science to explain and transform reality around us constantly increasing, and the general level of education also rising for everyone, people feel less drawn to seek organized religion as a tool for explaining the world and creating well-being.

And yet we humans have this inherent thirst for meaning in life, for a higher purpose, and for strong principles to lead our living—whether individually or socially. Here is the role of spirituality in the third millennium.

We live in an age of overindulgence, of instant gratification. We have more physical comforts, entertainment and knowledge than ever before in history. This is certainly a result of the advances in science and technology in the past century.

But why then…

  • are mental health problems on the rise as never before?
  • do many of us feel an emptiness inside, a lack of real fulfillment and contentment, even if we have financial security, stable income, a good family, plenty of comfort and an established career?
  • no matter how much we acquire in our material life, and how much we understand about the physical universe around us, there is still a deeper itch that is never scratched?

Here is the role of spirituality in the third millennium. Spirituality fills the gaps left behind both by organized religion and by scientific materialism.

Nowadays we cannot believe the dogmas of religion anymore—not like before. But when living life from the point of view that science is the only valid way of determining truth, we find ourselves in a cold, mechanistic, and indifferent universe. This leads to nihilism, cynicism, and lack of meaning in life.

“The most important decision we make is whether we believe we live in a friendly or hostile universe.” — Albert Einstein

I believe that spirituality—in its myriad expressions—is the best means to give meaning to human life. It is also the strongest basis for human goodness and ethical conduct in society. Without spirituality, often all the morality we are left with is the law, and there is really no reason why one should not “do anything one can get away with.”

[I’m not alone in this point of view at all. Professor Jordan Petersen eloquently defends the point of view that religious values are what keeps our morality and social order together. Also, historians Will Durant and Ariel Durant, analyzing the patterns throughout 10,000 years of human history, conclude that no real morality is possible without the “supernatural basis of spirituality”.]

  • Religion says that truth is what the scriptures say, and you must believe it.
  • Science says that truth is only the facts that can be experimentally proven through measuring devices, equations, and reason.
  • Spirituality says that reason is not the only means of knowing, but that this doesn’t mean one needs to have blind faith in religious doctrines either. We accept how little we know about the universe and about ourselves, and explore a deeper meaning in life through tools such as meditation, contemplation, self-exploration—and also reason, scriptures, altered states of consciousness, and anything we can get hold of.

Therefore, the final difference between religion and spirituality is that spirituality can dialogue with science, while religion can’t. Indeed, the whole meditation and mindfulness movement in the past couple of decades is a result of this dialogue—science investigating spiritual practices.

This is just the beginning of a new era, when science and spirituality work together.

Look at the consciousness as a function of matter and you have science; look at matter as the product of consciousness and you have spirituality. — Nisargadatta Maharaj

Science and spirituality each have their own domains of knowledge, their own unique methods and purposes. They both are good at different things, and they both need each other.

  • Spirituality is concerned with finding subjective truths, meaning, connection and fulfillment. Its subject matter is human growth, happiness, and transcendence.
  • Science is concerned with finding objective truths about the external world. Its subject matter is knowledge, information, invention.

Much of the knowledge that science has, at any given time, may be proved wrong—or at least flawed and incomplete—a hundred years later; but it’s what we have to work with. Likewise, the meanings created by spirituality may evolve, but we must work with what we have at this moment, so long that it is functional. (I digress)

This seems to be the direction we are moving towards: a spirituality informed by science, and a science informed by spirituality. Science will clean up spirituality of superstitions; and spirituality will elevate science, making it review some of its materialistic assumptions. The eastern concepts of meditation, karma, reincarnation, and enlightenment will play an important role in this development—a trend that we have seen since the early days of the New Age movement.

As for the institutionalized religions, if they still want a place in the next chapters of human history, they better become more like spirituality, and less like dogma.

So that is why I consider myself, as cliché as it may sound, spiritual but not religious.


Giovanni Dienstmann is the creator and the writer of liveanddare.com. He has be been actively seeking personal growth and a deeper meaning in life since he was a teenager.

SIGNS THAT YOU ARE A MYSTIC

By Desikachari “Desika” Nadadur PhD.

Dr. Nadadur is originally from India, and lives in the Greater Seattle Area in the State of Washington, U.S.A., with his wife and two children.

Academic Training:

  • Bachelor of Technology (B.Tech.) in Electronics and Communications Engineering, NBKRIST, Sri Venkateswara University, A.P., India
  • Master of Science (M.S.) in Electrical Engineering, Gonzaga University, Spokane, WA, U.S.A.
  • Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) in Electrical Engineering with Dissertation in Image Processing and Computer Vision from University of Washington, Seattle, WA, U.S.A.

Email: desika.nadadur@outlook.com

This is a profound work by Dr. Nadadur, giving much fuel for Seekers’ everywhere at any stage.

The following review by mysticexperiences.net is made up of point by point comments on each of Dr. Nadadur’s signs that you are a mystic:

You are a mystic, if

1. You ask the questions, “Who am I? Where do I come from? What is reality? What is my purpose? What is this universe?” and so on in trying to understand yourself and the world you perceive. 

Not me. My experiences every year for about 20 years were unbidden, spontaneous. Thereafter I never asked questions, just got answers …

2. You think that there is more to life than meets the physical eye.

There is more than life itself.

3. You notice and feel a guiding hand in your life.

Somewhat.

4. You experience and recognize serendipitous events in your life.

Somewhat.

5. You are able to increasingly manifest your desires with minimal effort.

The Reality that directed my experiences directs my life with or without ‘me’.

6. Your desires are increasingly becoming aligned with higher good of all (rather) than being ego-centric.

No to becoming aligned with anything but Reality. That is not a choice. Neither is ego-centricity. Free will is available to all creatures of the material world within the bounds of their design and attributes. However, free will is not a spiritual option.

7. You highly value your intuition and inner guidance.

No, they are two fruits of Reality for which I am gratefully humble. As such, they are beyond value.

8. You start to realize that your inner world of thoughts and emotions gives rise to your physical reality, and that sets you on a path to self-exploration and eventual self-realization.

No. Reality set me on Its path. Mere self does not exist there.

9. You start to see divine in yourself, in everything and everyone.

Everything lives in and has its being in Reality. It is a developing experience.

10.You value your consciousness and inner peace as the greatest wealth you have and you work diligently to expand it.

No. It’s a gift that develops and expands of its own volition. Ordinarily, I don’t think humans would be entrusted with this consciousness.

11.You value personal experience over belief systems.

Yes.

12.You start to realize that your body and mind are the temple of the divine, and you care for them as you would care for a newborn child.

No. Reality cares for me. I try to listen but Reality does not need my help. (LOL).

13. Abundance of all kinds effortlessly flows into your life and sometimes you don’t even realize it.

True, though Wants got in the way for far too long in my case.

14.You get mystical dreams and dream visitations by sages, saints and angels.

No. Phenomena is a distraction.

15. You feel a strong connection to everything around you.

Everything is me and I am That. It fits quietly and naturally into my passing life without demands or threats; giving never demanding.

16. You are more present in the now than worrying about the future or feeling guilty about the past. You may plan for a future goal, but not attached to the results, but work diligently on the now-task.

Detachment is a gift of Reality.

17. You are comfortable with—maybe even excited about—the uncertainty of not knowing what the next moment will bring.

No. Never think about that.

18. You start to notice that the sense of control you felt you wielded over your life and situations is slowly eroding, and is being replaced by a sense that a higher power is actually in control and that you are in for an exciting ride.

Correct.

19. You are drawn to mystics and spiritually oriented people and their stories, books, and so on.

Cautiously.

20. You have psychic abilities or are interested in cultivating them.

Maybe, but why? Sounds like a human thing, a spiritual distraction … Human verities are culturally malleable – a distraction.

21. You have out of body and astral projection experiences either involuntarily or voluntarily.

One unexpected experience at the beginning; an aural message I didn’t understand at the time that said, ALL IS WELL. I also planned and induced an alarmingly successful Kundalini experience on myself. I won’t be doing that again …

Other than that just some phenomena in meditation that is easily dealt with as I was taught.

22. You prefer internal rituals to external showings.

No, no rituals.

23. Your heart jumps for joy and you shed tears of joy, when you see a beautiful scenery, a child and anyone or anything that touches your heart.

Any sudden, serendipitious awareness of the presence of Reality can overwhelm me physically and emotionally.

24. You see anyone sad or in trouble, you show deep compassion and try to alleviate their suffering.

Yes, with frustration. All human pain seems self induced one way or another. Humans are at a very primitive stage.

25. You are independent and defy convention, but you are not arrogant.

Independent and unconventional yes. But impatient with the nonconscious. I try to avoid them.

26. You see all as your equals, and not different from you.

Potentially spiritually equal yes, but not equal as humans. Clearly, we are not born as equals though everyone should be given equality of opportunity as individuals. Only individuals matter to Reality, in my observations.

27. You are mistreated by someone, you don’t blame or complain, but you introspect and see what thoughts, feelings and energy that you are projecting that made the other person behave in that manner.

No. Avoiding negative people and situations is spiritually important.

28. Conscious living is your life’s purpose and you love to help anybody who wants to live consciously.

Yes. But people who want to live consciously are already on their way. “That which they seek seeks them” as the mystic tradition attests … but interfere cautiously, even if asked. Beware the untamed egos of the unconscious. They’ll maul you … Be humble, leg it (LOL).

29. Self-Surrender and Self-Awareness are your goals, too.

They are fruits of the experience of Reality. They arrive axiomatically, unnoticed.

30. You practice being aware of and surrendering to the Higher (deeper) Self/Divine Self (or whatever name you choose to give it) within you, every moment.

No need to try. It happens of itself. All is well.

31. You truly believe in the kingdom of heaven being within and know the divine as the formless omnipresence and omniscience.

Mystics don’t have to believe. They know. They don’t need enticing with anthropological myths like “the kingdom of heaven” either. Also, Reality is greater than “omnipresence” or “omniscience”. Reality is not a human warlord.

32. You live life as if every moment is a miracle and know that you may not always understand it and you are okay with it.

It never occurs to me to think about it.

33. You know that all paths that originated from the same source will all lead back to it, so you don’t need to fight for or defend your path. You truly believe in “live and let live”.

This sounds anthropomorphic. Reality is not just about humans, if at all …

34. You know/feel that you are the microcosmic representation of the macrocosm—as within, so without.

No.

35. You look at yourself in the mirror, and see a deep mystery staring back at you inviting you to explore. Until now you saw yourself as only a physical organism. Now, you see every cell of your body as a mysterious creation of divine love.

No. If I think about it at all I wonder if humans are an accidental product of some ineffable process.

36. You experience moments of peace, bliss, and self-love that expand to include everything and everyone around you (and, BTW, they all benefit from it).

Peace and bliss yes. But not self love! I love Reality. It never fails, is constant, a non stop blessing.

37. You are naturally attracted to mystical practices such as contemplation and meditation.

This attraction comes without bidding. It seems to be a natural state for mystics.

38. You start to feel a tension within you between long held beliefs and your newly expanding consciousness and realize the falsity of those beliefs and start to let them go.

Yes, that did happen, but long ago.

39. You experience and express more and more self-confidence and courage that results from your inner anchoring in peace and harmony and start to shed the fear-based living.

Perhaps. But this sounds human, doesn’t sound spiritually important.

40. You realize that teachers, experiences and opportunities come to you, as if by magic, for you to learn and grow.

Reality doesn’t need help with my learning and growthl These things were useful along the way but get less and less so.

41. You start to see mystery in everything you study. Spiritual literature that didn’t make sense to you before, suddenly starts to make sense. You start to see the spirit at work in all areas your life and fields of your study and work.

True. But you learn to just focus on and trust Reality, to let go.

If you have one or more of these qualities, you are (or becoming) a mystic.

Mystics are created by the personal, individual mystical experience of Reality (MER) if my experiences are anything to go by.

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FINDING THE SOUL

This excerpt is taken from an essay written by Ron Krumpos after he interviewed 10 mystics from around the world. The essay appears in his free pdf reprintable book, The Greatest Achievement in Life, which can be found at suprarational.org. The book is a comprehensive account of mysticism experienced today.

He writes:

“Finding the soul, even if that was possible, is less significant than living in the soul.

“Most of us live in our immediate emotions, our extended minds and our ever present bodies until death. Few of us live through the soul, constantly aware of the divine essence in us.

“It is the spiritual life which gives true purpose to our human lives. It is spiritual life which continues after this brief stay on Earth.

“It is the spirit in each of us which unites us with the spirit in All: all people, all sentient beings, all seemingly inanimate objects, and the divine.”

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