Is this seemingly spontaneous trend leaping out of the religious frying pan into the ‘human-spirit’ fire …?
Is it missing the phenomena of the mystic experience of Reality (MER) that drives human evolution?
Perhaps mysticism being hidden behind the secret password of ‘direct experience’ makes such oversight inevitable …
So perhaps the only solace in this current trend is its emphasis on the individual. Perhaps it’s the inevitable human flight from failed collectivism which is the antithesis of ultimately real human evolution.
Aren’t Ananias and Sapphira of the bible and today’s massively failed national attempts at collectivism a warning wreckage?
Individualism is the essence of my mystical experiences of Ultimate Reality.
So perhaps the current trend away from religions to individuality is significant enough, for now – a step along the way.
*See ‘Spiritual but not religious’ on Wikipedia for a comprehensive study of the trend.
By Desikachari “Desika” Nadadur PhD.
Dr. Nadadur is originally from India, and lives in the Greater Seattle Area in the State of Washington, U.S.A., with his wife and two children.
- Bachelor of Technology (B.Tech.) in Electronics and Communications Engineering, NBKRIST, Sri Venkateswara University, A.P., India
- Master of Science (M.S.) in Electrical Engineering, Gonzaga University, Spokane, WA, U.S.A.
- Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) in Electrical Engineering with Dissertation in Image Processing and Computer Vision from University of Washington, Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
This is a profound work by Dr. Nadadur, giving much fuel for Seekers’ everywhere at any stage.
The following review by mysticexperiences.net is made up of point by point comments on each of Dr. Nadadur’s signs that you are a mystic:
You are a mystic, if
1. You ask the questions, “Who am I? Where do I come from? What is reality? What is my purpose? What is this universe?” and so on in trying to understand yourself and the world you perceive.
Not me. My experiences every year for about 20 years were unbidden, spontaneous. Thereafter I never asked questions, just got answers …
2. You think that there is more to life than meets the physical eye.
There is more than life itself.
3. You notice and feel a guiding hand in your life.
4. You experience and recognize serendipitous events in your life.
5. You are able to increasingly manifest your desires with minimal effort.
The Reality that directed my experiences directs my life with or without ‘me’.
6. Your desires are increasingly becoming aligned with higher good of all (rather) than being ego-centric.
No to becoming aligned with anything but Reality. That is not a choice. Neither is ego-centricity. Free will is available to all creatures of the material world within the bounds of their design and attributes. However, free will is not a spiritual option.
7. You highly value your intuition and inner guidance.
No, they are two fruits of Reality for which I am gratefully humble. As such, they are beyond value.
8. You start to realize that your inner world of thoughts and emotions gives rise to your physical reality, and that sets you on a path to self-exploration and eventual self-realization.
No. Reality set me on Its path. Mere self does not exist there.
9. You start to see divine in yourself, in everything and everyone.
Everything lives in and has its being in Reality. It is a developing experience.
10.You value your consciousness and inner peace as the greatest wealth you have and you work diligently to expand it.
No. It’s a gift that develops and expands of its own volition. Ordinarily, I don’t think humans would be entrusted with this consciousness.
11.You value personal experience over belief systems.
12.You start to realize that your body and mind are the temple of the divine, and you care for them as you would care for a newborn child.
No. Reality cares for me. I try to listen but Reality does not need my help. (LOL).
13. Abundance of all kinds effortlessly flows into your life and sometimes you don’t even realize it.
True, though Wants got in the way for far too long in my case.
14.You get mystical dreams and dream visitations by sages, saints and angels.
No. Phenomena is a distraction.
15. You feel a strong connection to everything around you.
Everything is me and I am That. It fits quietly and naturally into my passing life without demands or threats; giving never demanding.
16. You are more present in the now than worrying about the future or feeling guilty about the past. You may plan for a future goal, but not attached to the results, but work diligently on the now-task.
Detachment is a gift of Reality.
17. You are comfortable with—maybe even excited about—the uncertainty of not knowing what the next moment will bring.
No. Never think about that.
18. You start to notice that the sense of control you felt you wielded over your life and situations is slowly eroding, and is being replaced by a sense that a higher power is actually in control and that you are in for an exciting ride.
19. You are drawn to mystics and spiritually oriented people and their stories, books, and so on.
20. You have psychic abilities or are interested in cultivating them.
Maybe, but why? Sounds like a human thing, a spiritual distraction … Human verities are culturally malleable – a distraction.
21. You have out of body and astral projection experiences either involuntarily or voluntarily.
One unexpected experience at the beginning; an aural message I didn’t understand at the time that said, ALL IS WELL. I also planned and induced an alarmingly successful Kundalini experience on myself. I won’t be doing that again …
Other than that just some phenomena in meditation that is easily dealt with as I was taught.
22. You prefer internal rituals to external showings.
No, no rituals.
23. Your heart jumps for joy and you shed tears of joy, when you see a beautiful scenery, a child and anyone or anything that touches your heart.
Any sudden, serendipitious awareness of the presence of Reality can overwhelm me physically and emotionally.
24. You see anyone sad or in trouble, you show deep compassion and try to alleviate their suffering.
Yes, with frustration. All human pain seems self induced one way or another. Humans are at a very primitive stage.
25. You are independent and defy convention, but you are not arrogant.
Independent and unconventional yes. But impatient with the nonconscious. I try to avoid them.
26. You see all as your equals, and not different from you.
Potentially spiritually equal yes, but not equal as humans. Clearly, we are not born as equals though everyone should be given equality of opportunity as individuals. Only individuals matter to Reality, in my observations.
27. You are mistreated by someone, you don’t blame or complain, but you introspect and see what thoughts, feelings and energy that you are projecting that made the other person behave in that manner.
No. Avoiding negative people and situations is spiritually important.
28. Conscious living is your life’s purpose and you love to help anybody who wants to live consciously.
Yes. But people who want to live consciously are already on their way. “That which they seek seeks them” as the mystic tradition attests … but interfere cautiously, even if asked. Beware the untamed egos of the unconscious. They’ll maul you … Be humble, leg it (LOL).
29. Self-Surrender and Self-Awareness are your goals, too.
They are fruits of the experience of Reality. They arrive axiomatically, unnoticed.
30. You practice being aware of and surrendering to the Higher (deeper) Self/Divine Self (or whatever name you choose to give it) within you, every moment.
No need to try. It happens of itself. All is well.
31. You truly believe in the kingdom of heaven being within and know the divine as the formless omnipresence and omniscience.
Mystics don’t have to believe. They know. They don’t need enticing with anthropological myths like “the kingdom of heaven” either. Also, Reality is greater than “omnipresence” or “omniscience”. Reality is not a human warlord.
32. You live life as if every moment is a miracle and know that you may not always understand it and you are okay with it.
It never occurs to me to think about it.
33. You know that all paths that originated from the same source will all lead back to it, so you don’t need to fight for or defend your path. You truly believe in “live and let live”.
This sounds anthropomorphic. Reality is not just about humans, if at all …
34. You know/feel that you are the microcosmic representation of the macrocosm—as within, so without.
35. You look at yourself in the mirror, and see a deep mystery staring back at you inviting you to explore. Until now you saw yourself as only a physical organism. Now, you see every cell of your body as a mysterious creation of divine love.
No. If I think about it at all I wonder if humans are an accidental product of some ineffable process.
36. You experience moments of peace, bliss, and self-love that expand to include everything and everyone around you (and, BTW, they all benefit from it).
Peace and bliss yes. But not self love! I love Reality. It never fails, is constant, a non stop blessing.
37. You are naturally attracted to mystical practices such as contemplation and meditation.
This attraction comes without bidding. It seems to be a natural state for mystics.
38. You start to feel a tension within you between long held beliefs and your newly expanding consciousness and realize the falsity of those beliefs and start to let them go.
Yes, that did happen, but long ago.
39. You experience and express more and more self-confidence and courage that results from your inner anchoring in peace and harmony and start to shed the fear-based living.
Perhaps. But this sounds human, doesn’t sound spiritually important.
40. You realize that teachers, experiences and opportunities come to you, as if by magic, for you to learn and grow.
Reality doesn’t need help with my learning and growthl These things were useful along the way but get less and less so.
41. You start to see mystery in everything you study. Spiritual literature that didn’t make sense to you before, suddenly starts to make sense. You start to see the spirit at work in all areas your life and fields of your study and work.
True. But you learn to just focus on and trust Reality, to let go.
If you have one or more of these qualities, you are (or becoming) a mystic.
Mystics are created by the personal, individual mystical experience of Reality (MER) if my experiences are anything to go by.
This is an interesting insight into the thoughts of a Seeker exercising what the Bible calls his “hunger and thirst after righteousness”, the unrelenting passion of this writer’s life.
I get the impression the answers he’s getting from human sources aren’t illuminating his path:
That dratted word, “my”.
A Christian on the Internet objects to the use of “my” – as in when I say, “in my experiences” – when I draw on the spontaneous annual mystical experiences of Reality (MER) I had from about 15 to 35 years of age, to make posts on this web site.
He says my use of the word shows ego. Ego, he says, is not found “on the mystical plane”. He asks who am I to offer myself as an authority.
But my use of the pronoun is to say, “this is only my experience”. I use “me” as a qualifier to caution readers as to the identity of the source of my anecdotal, personal experiences. My experiences are the only authority I offer.
Another reason I use the word “we” is because I have to use a human language historically developed to express experience of the material world. But MER cannot be explained or experienced in terms of the material world.
I am trying to share experiences of a spiritual phenomena that cannot be explained by materialism. MER does not exist materially. It has no body or brain, it just is everything and everything is it. It has no need of language or explanation. MER can only be experienced, caught not taught.
So I am just sharing my mystical experiences to help me get as full a comparative understanding of them from others’ experiences, comments, writings, likes and emails – as I now do from among 68 countries including scientific sources around the world I had no idea were taking mysticism so seriously.
For instance, if I had not started this web site I may not have come across the likelihood of being a pratyekabuddha. (Coincidence? I’m not sure).
Apparently a pratyekabuddha, or paccekabuddha, is the so-called “silent buddha” who does not try to share his or her realization with the world.
Pratyekabuddhas are said to achieve enlightenment on their own, without the use of teachers or guides, by “dependent origination”, (spontaneity?).
Traditionally, Paccekabuddhas give moral teachings but not enlightenment. (See unedited descriptions in Wikipedia).
I certainly do not give “moral teachings”, or ethical ones for that matter as they’re man made, not to be found in Reality – according to my experiences.
Nor can I or anyone else so far as I am aware “give” enlightenment. Enlightenment is, as I say above, caught not taught.
Nor do I feel called to be a master, teacher or “authority” on enlightenment or Reality!
Many mystics who felt otherwise and presumably engaged in human affairs because that’s what they thought they were called to do, failed. The material world brought them to very bad ends.
Modern mystics, of which there are said to be many more than there used to be, seem to know better. They keep to themselves.
So the Internet Christian’s misunderstanding I reported in the first sentence above is a reminder to me of the advice I got from a Master with millions of non monetarised followers around the world who few humans even know about.
He cautioned me about posting my experiences to spiritually unqualfied Internet social sites like Facebook etc. So that’s why mysticexperiences.net is not posted to those sites now. Yet the blog grows organically almost daily.
Obviously I shall have to be even more circumspect. Mysticism is clearly only for those who have ears to hear as the ancient saying goes …
It doesn’t. Humans have no say in the matter in my experience.
Humans don’t have any choice. Reality doles out individual spiritual awakening, not humans.
Nor does Reality pay attention to human “spiritual priorities”. From my perspective, the notion of uncalled humans having “spiritual priorities” is an oxymoronic egoism.
Until Reality awakens individuals to the possibility of spirituality, humans aren’t aware of real spirituality. They become aware only when they’re made to …
If you’re having persistently recurring urgings to know who and what you are and what it’s all about, take comfort. That which you seek seeks you with such promptings.
Even after awakening, humans still have no spiritual choices, nor would that notion even occur to those awakened.
Reality has its own ways. Its ways are not human ways.
There is a lot to come, from before history to long after …
All is well.
A Follower asks where he can find an account of my mystic experiences on this Blog. There are hints and affirmations throughout the Blog but no whole, progressive narrative account, so here it is:
I had spontaneous yearly experiences of mystical reunions with Reality from about 15 to 35 years of age. I kept them to myself for nearly 50 years.
They recreated me from a who to a what and gave me a sense of having existed from the beginning of all things to the end of all things; of belonging; and of “everything belonging to me” that others describe as “oneness”; an overwheming liquifying of my matter into pure joy; a profoundly thankful humility; a disappointment in not finding “God” there; a sense of knowing everything; of not existing anywhere but in the experiences; of knowing real reality of existence is the Reality I was experiencing; the frantic helplessness of desolation, of abandonment as each of the experiences ended.
As each of my experiences dissolved me back into my humanity I felt a keenness of loss, outcries of alarm, a profound, wrenching desperation of catastrophic bereavement. I scrabbled against it in futility. I felt marooned, a feeling that taints my human existence to this very second.
I was infused rather than taught or shown or guided. I remember there was nothing to see, hear, smell, physically feel, or think.
In one of my experiences a voice told me quite clearly and emphatically, ALL IS WELL. I was dumbfounded so the message was repeated three times …
The reason I was dumbfounded and deeply disappointed was I thought the message came for someone else. I looked around but there was no one else to see.
I was baffled for years over that message because I had not asked or thought of a question to which that might be the answer.
Another time, I was levitated out of my body. It happened without me noticing. When I did notice it seemed quite natural. I was overjoyed that God was ridding me of my body to take me up. Then I was bitterly betrayed on looking down to see my body still there about 15 feet below.
My conclusion now is there seems to be a Process into which I have been drawn, rather than “God”. This Process is nowhere near as limited as the human word “God” implies. It is benign, caring of all creation, guarding, guiding, aiding and comforting, a constant seemingly natural state of unending contentment, peace, tranquility, humility, gratitude, awe and joy. But it is not about making me a better human, though that, I think I can presume, is automatic, axiomatic. We are all more than merely human.
My sense of personality, character, body, mind, intelligence, intellect, did not exist in my MERs, nor did I miss them, expect them or need them.
I came away with the impression human bodies and brains die, but their spiritual knowingness become absorbed, added into this non-material Process of Reality beyond infinity that never dies. Reality seeks, but does not seek body, brain or mind it seems.
After MER, humans have no need of the anthropmorphic falsehoods of faith, hope or belief – after MER they KNOW. They are one with the Process, no longer needing gods or “God”. The experiences are fulfilling and keep being fulfilling after they’ve gone.
I was never given to believe humanity or individuals can invoke or influence this Process of Reality, either. In fact, being only human might be the reason so many humans have not yet had the experience of MER. Human attachment and egos are two strong deterrents among the many human attributes that come between us and this fulfillment.
The experiences were fulfilling beyond all ordinary human experience, imagining or knowledge. Reality seems to be the alpha and omega of everything, all knowing, a fundamental existential of being that just is, a given that can be taken for granted, does not need to be named. In Reality there are no names: everything just is and all is well. And I was and am that.
Between these experiences I toiled privately at the agony of being partly human despite the experiences’ development and continued effect on me – the continuingly joyous but alienating illumination of Reality and my true nature.
The stress of this growing alienation from “manmukh” – all things human – affected me severely.
The energy of the world, of the human spirit, is not compatible with the development of the spirituality of the ultimate reality of the Mystical Experience of Reality, (MER), in my experiences.
This struggle ruined my life, thankfully …
Now if I’m asked what I have especially taken away from my experiences I would say: Reality is a process. It is in charge. It never fails and is utterly benign …
Neverthless, at times the process got so desperate I developed and finalised the following secret plea to be rescued.
(At the time, I didn’t know how serious the act of writing can be, I just thought I was writing a poem. Later, the answer to this plea came by writing too and is also recorded here):
Divinity’s insouciant servants of the Light
Fly beneath my fears, over my plight,
Indifferent to my day as to my night.
Marooned in the humanity of my time,
Tired by glimpses of the divine,
Save me soon Lord, make me thine.
Marooned to solitude is your story;
Its contemplation leads you to my glory.
Love, understanding and compassion
Are the lessons of your life, your grace, your passion.
From the other side of Night,
I am your glory, your rescue Light …
(Nowadays I wouldn’t use the words “God”, “divine”, “faith”, “Divinity” or “Lord”. And I would call “the light” Reality, such a Light being a unique part of Reality.
(PS: The word “faith” has been bothering me. It signifies lack of real spiritual experience. So as I returned to this poem with my doubt about the rightness of the word the real word arrived. So I have deleted “faith” and as you will see, have inserted the more meaningful word “grace”).
In MER, Mystical Experience of Reality, there are no rules. In Reality all is as it should be. There, mystics are safe. In fact, they’ve probably merged into Reality so no longer exist. Reality doesn’t know what a mystic is. Mystic is a human word.
However, in the mystic’s human state, there are observances a mystic might find useful:
- Pragmatic defensiveness using avoidance and silence help deal with the generality of humanity, even if you’re in a caring profession.
- Being decent – doing no harm, spiritually, physically, mentally or emotionally to any part of the creation, is basic, and also a good defence whilst marooned here,
- Being legal, wherever in the babble of human cultures and tribal instincts, institutional taboos and mythomanic attachments you may find yourself, will usually keep you safe,
- Being honest will commend you to the generality of humans – if applied with discernment and discrimination, as not all humans are equal. (Warning: They think they are),
- Generally, avoid human expectations as you would untimely death,
- Hone your mystical invisibility to maintain your centre of content and spiritual focus in your temporary human state,
- By all means, be sympathetic and empathetic in thought, word and deed when faced with human predicaments, but do not believe or infer to others you can be of much real help. There is a difference between true, correcting and lasting help and selfish interference. (We see this in the separating evils of religions, politics, and passive/aggressive egos – all of them strong, human mind-conditions you’ll stumble across often).
Basically, just escaping into contemplative remembrance of your MER(s) until you regain your mystic equilibrium will meet most of the problems of your developing calling whilst here.
Keep heart, you’ll never again be as far from Reality as you are now …
Onwards and upwards. All Is Well.
Historically, mystics had no choice but to be in a religion – or else! Even so, they were tortured, incarcerated, banished, excommunicated and/or killed.
Today’s true mystics have no such restraints. Even so, they avoid religious distractions, even other mystics. Some Sufi schools even strongly advise meditating alone, not even to dally after satsangs/meetings to socialise, eat or drink.
Two contemporary Sufi schools, and a published Sufi master, distance themselves from Islam publically because they say the mystical experience is significantly further along the spiritual path, much purer; that religions are spiritually ignorant, man-made distractions to the truly called. One Sufi school says real, pure Sufism existed before religions anyway.
(Did the religions become the obscuring weeds of the original and ever present spiritual flower?).
An Internet guru ignores spiritual books in case his personal experience of Reality becomes adulterated.
MER, the Mystical Experience of Reality, is enough.
It has to be noted Jesus did not leave any spiritual instructions for enlightenment. His alleged biblical teachings were all anthropological – moral and ethical, not spiritual.
(What he imparted in the personal, face to face oral tradition of teachers with their pupils of his time however, a tradition still widely followed today, might have been purely mystical, but will we ever know?).
The Jesus Conference of world-wide scholars and scientists says only about a dozen of the words ascribed to Jesus in the Bible can be verified as his. Not one of those words is a mystical teaching.
The other religions are in the same category – manmade constructions simply teaching current human moralities and ethics.
Still, one Sufi school admonishes its followers not to interfere with the religious as many religionists are called. They are finding their way. They will succeed ultimately – there are no failures in the universal mystical experience of Reality.
It has to be emphasised that the essence of the mystic experience is that it comes for individuals, not social collectives, countries, ideologies, political “isms”, theologies, philosophies, religions, or even mankind. It comes for you.
MER has its own agenda. MER is independent of all influences yet known to mankind. As the biblical Jesus is quoted as saying, it comes like the wind, from where and to where no one knows.
So all a mystic can truthfully suggest is, if you’re a religionist, carry on in your chosen religion until you can’t. Just don’t let religion become a danger to you or anyone else.
Seeking Reality is an individual calling, a singular voice for you only, for our ways are not Reality’s ways. Ultimately, Reality is the only way.
As for the rest, including human destiny, all is enfolding in good order as the night the day. All is well.
“Traditionalists say that there can be no mystics in modern times. Our lives are too complex for anyone to seek mystical awareness, let alone to realize divine union.
“In fact, there are probably more mystics today than at any time in history.
“The percentages may be less, but world population is considerably greater. Some of them have not been acknowledged yet.
“There is no census on mystics.”
From The Greatest Achievement in Life by Ron. D. Krompos, free pdf ebook, suprarational.org.
An excerpt from a memoir of Dom John Chapman, Order of Saint Benedictine, Abbot of Downside Abbey, by Dom Roger Hudleston, O.S.B., in the paperback, “Spiritual Letters”, first published 1934, current pubs., 2003 and 2004 by Burns & Oates, London, New York:
“A good Director, he held, must be a nurse, no more. He should confine himself to the task of teaching his penitent how to walk alone and unaided. That done, he should be ready to retire into the background; only emerging on rare occasions when unusual circumstances or some particular crisis called for his attention. Directors of this kind would be of no danger to simplicity or humility, while an over dogmatic or too eager Director, giving unsuitable or unnecessary advice with relish and impressiveness, would harm both his penitent and himself.”
First published in 1935, the timeless spirituality of these letters are straightforward expressions of a committed truth seeker impatient of religious cant and “stupidity”, steeped in “omnivorous” scholastic reading and analysis.
As a notable Church establishment figure, Dom Chapman’s knowledge of and acceptance of mysticism is a surprising discovery.
MER seems to have its own as yet unknown purpose and only reveals proof of itself to individuals.
In the many ancient and new books and papers on mysticism I’ve tried to comfort and validate myself with over the years there seem to be two underpinning assumptions that are aggravatingly wrong:
- The mystical experience of reality (MER) exists solely for the benefit of mankind;
- MER can be induced by humans.
If my direct experiences of MER several times a year from the age of about 15 to late 30’s are anything to go by, those two conclusions are wrong, because:
- MER does not exist to make better human beings, (ignoring for the moment the ever changing historical notions about what being acceptably ‘better’ is anyway …)
- Nor is there any evidence MER can or has ever been induced by human beings (though the experiment that produced Krishnamurti might be worth rigorous modern examination …).
Again, MER seems to have its own as yet unknown purpose and only reveals proof of itself to individuals. So all that can be suggested about MER’s contact with humans is that it appears to be addressing individuals exclusively, not even human groups, ideologies or nations, only individuals.
MER does not seem to be interested in, nor respond to any collective human interaction. It seems impervious to evangelism, nationalism, tribalism, culturism, religions, prozelizations, logics, reasons, politics, governances, moralities or ethics etc.
Some scientific books and papers make their spiritual errors of collectivism, communalism and socialism despite more vigorous applications of unbiased scientific endeavours elsewhere, particularly in the fields of physics.
These other, more neutral scientific fields seem to be inching their way by pragmatic experiment to a convergence of scientific method and mystical experience without unsupported worldly assumptions.
For instance, some scientists are already saying there is mathematical indication the human race is going to turn into something beyond our present understanding of the human race, when most of our social assumptions will be long gone. Non religious Sufism claims to have known that for thousands of years.
Raymond Kurzweil, described as “the restless genius” by The Wall Street Journal, said in a Closer To Truth video interview, “humans will transcend their biology”. He is an influential American best selling author, computer scientist, inventor, futurist and Google executive.
Dr. Owen Gingerich, is professor emeritus of astronomy and of the history of science at Harvard University and a senior astronomer emeritus at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. He said in a similar interview on Closer To Truth, there will be no more humans eventually.
He said species are changing because of rapidly developing consciousness and that we’re changing every year.
Professor Donald Hoffman, Cognitive Science, University of California, says the physical world isn’t final reality. He suggests natural selection drives our perceptions to extinction.
My very personal perspective is that we’re outrunning impoverished worldly assumptions such as religions, monetarised gurus, new agers, hippies and the latest establishment of social mythomanias. Is spiritual consciousness being asserted?
If so, that leaves us with scientific physicists. They are the ones left with the perennial need to scratch the human itch to know the Whats, Where’s and Why’s of human existence.
In the meantime what about mystics, you may ask.
What about them? If my situation is anything to go by, mystics only know Reality, not what Reality’s about.
The only good news mystics bring to humans is confirmation that another, non-ending Reality actually does exist.
This Reality is not merely a subjective experience. It is benign, loving beyond human experience, caring, imparts a joy otherwise unknown to us, gives a certainty that we are a part of it and that All Is Well – societies or no societies, books or no books. Maybe even humans as they are now wont be around in future and need to get over themselves?
I am often asked what Quietism is, presumably because it’s one of the descriptions I gave of myself in this blog’s ABOUT page.
I’m also asked why Quietism is frowned on by religionists (obviously by a questioner who has done some research on the subject).
Basically, Quietism is a description of how some who have had the mystical experience of Reality (MER) become “in the world but not of it” whether they like it or not, who thirst after righteousness to the exclusion of human interference.
I didn’t like it a bit from a human point of view when it happened to me because despite the joy and understanding and other fruits MER brought it was progressively, alarmingly alienating at the time. I kept it secret for over 50 years. Even now I haven’t told everything.
You could say MER ruined my life, and I thank MER for that …
I didn’t fit in. Quietism made me feel like one of philosopher, writer, lecturer Colin Wilson’s Outsiders. That was the name of his first book he wrote at the age of 24 that made him famous worldwide and is still in print since 1956 in over 30 languages.
The Outsider examines the human psyche through the lives and works of notables such as Nietsche, Gurdieff, Hesse, Kafka, Sartre, Blake etc. It studies the effects of their “dislocation” from the human condition, their need for transcendence, the effect these Outsiders had on society and society’s effects on them. Unfortunately I never read the book fully because it seemed at that period of my understanding to be too human oriented, too human polluting of my MER experiences.
There are, on the other hand, others who have had the experience of MER who are not affected by Outsiderism. They engage in human affairs.
For instance, some Buddhist schools recognise the phenomena of quietism in their description of The Silent Buddha: a pratyekabuddha, or paccekabuddha, the so-called “realised, silent buddhas” who do not share their Realization with the world. Traditionally, it’s said, Pratyekabuddhas give moral teachings but not enlightenment.
Like my spontaneous personal MERs, pratyekabuddhas are said to achieve enlightenment on their own, without the use of teachers or guides. (See fuller descriptions in Wikipedia).
Deepak Chopra says in his book, The Book of Secrets, “. . . there are a few people who enjoy stillness more than activity, and they dive as deep as they can to find where the water stops running, a point so still and deep that one isn’t touched by the surface waves at all. Having found this stable centre they experience themselves(?)* to the maximum and the outside world to the minimum.”
Saint Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits, said “the better part” of the religious life is the one of direct experience (MER).
Carl Jung, the father of psychology, and a proponent of mysticism, is well known for his clear distinction between the superior values of the individual compared to the inferior not to say dangerous values of the collective.
My personal experience is that Quietism is a fruit of MER and like MER is caught not taught – you can’t decide for yourself that you’re going to be a Quietest.
So why have the religionists historically taken such violent, extra judicial, not to say genocidal, even murderous views of individual mystical experience in general and Quietism in particular?
The Catholic Oganisation dictionary has this to say:
“Spiritual knowledge. In a valid sense it is the knowledge of divine mysteries possessed already in this life, though darkly as a “hidden wisdom” (I Corinthians 2:6-16). In a heretical sense it is the recurring error of those who claim to have knowledge of divine things exclusively from their own religious experience and even in contradiction to the Church’s teaching authority.”
Generally, religions are those human organisations that have conceptualised their notion of their original founders’ spiritual experiences into merely human moralities, dogmas, taboos and ethics, creating a lack of distinction between the generality of the lesser human spirit and the superior, focused, individual spirituality of Ultimate Reality that embraces everything known and as yet unknown and is indescribable, unteachable and unpreachable …
So what is the Quietist’s view of humanity?
My conviction is that humanity is a profound spiritual distraction.
The individual is more important to human development than any collective, is at a higher stage of knowing than the popular delusion that the needs of the many come before the needs of the individual.
Human collectivism is cosmically counter productive, a negative, evolutionarily destructive, malignant weed in the cultivation of Reality’s perfection.
Fortunately, collective totalitarianism does seem to be disappearing under the weight of its own irreality as an inconsequential sideline in humanity’s history.
The biblical example of Christianity’s failed attempt to establish communism is in the story of Ananias and Sophira, or more currently, the USSR, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Cambodia are all striking examples of the violent, inhumane failure of collectivism.
Spiritually, there is nothing of lasting value to be learned from studying the human race. Only individually experienced MER presents knowledge of the cosmic permanence from which all existence, including human existence, flows. And this cosmic source is all powerful, totally benign, loving. There is literally infinitely more than just being human, thankfully.
* No! In my experiences of MER, if that’s what Dr. Chopra means, Revelation is received from an “outside” completely independent of the self or anything human. Hence the inescapable, unbidden cosmic gift of the spiritual hunger that produces Quietists presumably …
Added to, December 2017 – see “Jesus”. No spiritual lessons.
Q: Are you anti-religion?
A: As a mystic, I’m not qualified to answer that.
Q: Why not?
A: To me, only spiritual questions are relevant.
Q: So you’re saying religions are not spiritual?
A: Mystics are by definition spiritual. But religions have nothing to do with spirituality. They are more a spiritual hindrance than help for the truly called.
Q: But humans take religions very seriously, even the ones who don’t practice them. Can you expand on that?
A. Religions are a human attempt to create the mystical experience of Reality, but can’t. The experience of Reality is for individuals only. It can’t be induced by humans.
As such, religions’ goals are reduced to producing “better” human beings, being focused instead on morality and
ethics, on non-spiritual, human stuff.
Q: Aren’t mystics interested in bettering humans; in this “human stuff”?
A: The Jesus of the bible is not the only enlightened one who thought improving the human race was what the mystical experience of Reality is all about. But the Experience is caught, not taught and can’t be retransmitted.
That is why Jesus’ mission failed. It inevitably deteriorated through ordinary human beings into mere morality and ethics, human practices and religious “churches” of rituals and dogmas. These are are not spiritual. There are no biblical records of actual spiritual lessons from the biblical Jesus.
But some people are called to higher things and avoid such distractions, as Deepak Chopra suggests:
“. . . there are a few people who enjoy stillness more than activity, and they dive as deep as they can to find where the water stops running, a point so still and deep that one isn’t touched by the surface waves at all. Having found this stable centre they experience themselves to the maximum and the outside world to the minimum.” – The Book of Secrets by Deepak Chopra, M.D.
Q: So Jesus’ mission failed?
A: Your personal answer lies in 2000 years of human history. Just look around you to see how the promises match the human reality. What attempts there were to introduce spirituality by for instance people like Guyon or Molinos were smothered vigirously by the western religions of the day. Enlightened Sufis were put to death by Islam in their day.
Whatever the spiritual experiences were of certain individuals from whom religions were created, those experiences have long since been dissipated by the human impulsions of lust, anger, greed, attachments and ego, for instance.
From my experience as a human, then through no effort of mine as a mystic with experiences of Ultimate Reality, I can say that humans will not fulfill human destiny through anything they can do themselves.
Only the same Ultimate Reality that creates mystics can fulfill human destiny, and even then being human is not the ultimate destiny of humans anyway.
Q: You don’t offer people generally and religious people in particular much comfort, do you?
A: Humans are in good hands. Fortunately, the human race is apparently not allowed to take over the direction of its destiny. It is not qualified yet.
Anyway, real Seekers, those who are called, impelled despite themselves, who, as the Christian bible hints, “hunger and thirst”, who have been given a passion to know Ultimate Reality, will inevitably find themselves searching through religions but then rejecting the spiritual inadequacy they find there. They will discern the difference between human spirit and the spirit of Ultimate Reality. They are not called then abandoned.
Eventually, for reasons as yet unknown even to mystics, some of these Seekers may experience Reality. When they do, they will never have to engage in primal human distractions ever again.
Some Searchers will even bypass religions, experience Reality directly without ever touching religions or teachers or any human influences. They are caught, not taught. It’s a benign, loving, giving, not taking process. All is well.
Humans! Who are they, what are they, why are they?
It doesn’t need a book to know the answers. The answers come with birth. Every human has the answers.
Some humans are made suddenly aware of the existence of the answers. Others awaken to them in dribs and drabs. Others don’t seem to be bothered.
However, thousands of years of human experience of this phenomenon have caused those who know to accept there are no failures. Every human comes fully to its eventual fruition.
The phenomena of Reality is benign. Every human is loved and accepted, as is, whatever its stage of development or errors, in its entirety, for eternity, integrated into a joy, a bliss beyond human expression, ineffable.
Whoever is enlightened to the existence of the answers to human existence learns more and more according to their development. They become aware of a reality greater than anything merely human. Humans are loved, guarded and guided. Eventually they know and become that Reality, fulfilled in it.
When the last human becomes fulfilled, human existence will have served its purpose. Humans will no longer exist.
So when the instincts arise in you, they will persist whether you like it or not, are distracted by human life or not. The Mystical Experience of Reality never fails.
So eat less, sleep less, do less. Nothing human is ultimately lasting. Find solitude. Wait, watch and listen. Become and be, forever.