ARE MYSTICS PSYCHOTIC?

Are you a Who or a What?

Questions and Answers.

 

QUESTION: Are mystics psychotic?

ANSWER: A neuroscientist called Persinger suggested in the late 1980’s that the mystic experiences of Reality are psychotic incidents, mentally created if I understand him rightly. So far as I know there hasn’t been any research of significance on the theory. However, Dr Persinger did help develop an electronic helmet which he said reproduced the presence of God.*

Q: Does it?

A: I doubt there’s any mystic experience in history that would claim to be able to invoke any god, certainly not by physical means.

By the way, the use of the culturally and socially ambivalent word God suggests the good doctor has not had the personal mystical experience of Reality himself, nor read the literature on it that goes back 8,000 years if the dating of the Yoga Visistha epic is anything to go by.

Scientists of today, physicists, metaphysicists, psychologists, even theologians and philosophers seem far more receptive to the fundamentals of the phenomena of mystic experience than to any suggestion of psychoticism.

There seems to be a growing awareness of scientific experiment versus mystical experience. Scientists now appear to be on the brink of realising humans might not be the centre of existence, that only mystical experience explains anything of the ultimate reality of which humans are only a part.

Anyway, much of this is not known by the general public. What’s your interest?

Q. To be honest I’m not interested, It’s science fiction to me. I just heard someone discussing you.

A. Sounds like a dismissive discussion! (laughs). How about you? Are you happy with who you are? Do you have any interest in what you are?

Q. What I am? What do you mean, what I am?

A. Sorry, didn’t mean to pry … If you don’t know it doesn’t matter …

Q. No! What do you mean by that, by what I am? Isn’t that rather rude? Aren’t you just supposed to explain, teach, or something?

A. Some mystics are inclined to teach I think, but no, I’m not a teaching mystic – not a priest, monk, guru, prophet or master.

In buddhism, there’s a tradition of the enlightened staying behind to teach.** Other enlightened buddhists don’t teach. They’re called to continue their pilgrimage without human distractions, to what buddhists call Nirvana. If I was a buddhist I would be the latter I think. Anyway, spiritual Reality is caught, not taught. It is counterproductive for you to be “taught” what is only eventually available to you when you are ready and only Ultimate Reality knows that. You’re in good hands. All is well.

But if you have spiritual questions that my experiences might help in developing yours I will always be available.

However, while you’re still a Who not a What you won’t have any spiritual questions to ask yet.

By the way, I’m not being rude. Humans often take facts as insults. I’m being far more serious than that.

* Read More: For more information, see our post where philosopher and author Douglas Lockhart discusses psychoticism and mysticism. Dr Nicki Crowley also discusses the subject from a psychological point of view in Are Mystics Psychotic? Part II. For even more on this subject, check out the PSYCHIATRY category of this blog.


** A pratyekabuddha, or paccekabuddha, is the so-called “silent buddha” who does not try to share his realization with the world. Pratyekabuddhas are said to achieve enlightenment on their own, without the use of teachers or guides, by “dependent origination”, (spontaneous rebirth?). Traditionally, Paccekabuddhas give moral teachings but not enlightenment. (See unedited descriptions in Wikipedia).

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DOES GOD EXIST?

Does God exist?

No. But for some, for the time being, yes.

No, because the name God is a human word and in Reality, where all things are perfect and known, there no names.

(If you are a mystic you know that of course because you experience that).

If you have not had the mystic experience but seek such knowing, then until you are a mystic you have to become used to human words to at least start addressing the questions about Reality that arise from your inner promptings as a Seeker.

(If you are not a Seeker you wouldn’t be reading this).

On the other hand, you should know that one aspect of the mystical experience of Reality is that there’s nothing about the human condition that’s worth studying. Reality is beyond that, which might be one of the reasons humans are recycled so quickly …

Just bear in mind that religions and their gods/God have to rely on faith, belief and hope that the gods/God actually exist in the absence of any real spritual as opposed to religious experience.

The word God is just a pointer, not the real thing, just as a menu is not the food. Menus don’t nourish – the food does.

Though the word God is probably used in its various formats more often than any other word in any human language, that usage is very limited because it can’t deliver the experience of Reality.

Also, whatever way the word God is used by humans, it’s describing a small god with human attributes, not the immensity and power of Reality that has no known human attributes. Religious gods are too small. They’re limited to human understanding.

Even the title of Creator carries no evidence of a human-like creator. So far as science is concerned, for instance, all creation is caused by the existence of not always identifiable parts following rules that bring them together or take them apart to re-form infinitely as something else beyond “rules”. Science follows this procedure in the hope when they understand everything they will know everything. This is not the mystic experience.

As impressive as this spectacle of scientific effort can be to humans, the process and its results are not proof of human-like involvement by what humans like to think of as a god or even an ultimate God.

Take love for instance. Human love is made up of lust, anger, greed, attachments and ego. You can see evidence of these attributions to God in religions. But the mystics know that Reality’s love is a total, irreducible, benign acceptance of everything, conveying a joy so beyond mere human experience as to transform all such existence. Reality is by its nature benign, accepting, inexorably powerful, knowing and caring. This historically undeniable experience defies full human expression or description.

By comparison, religions are mired in belief, trust and hope – each of which is admitting religion doesn’t know – doesn’t have spiritual experience. Their resultant gods/God are small, weak, powerless, uncaring and unknowing. Whatever humans eventually become will only ever be a shadow of Reality.

Remaining human is not the ultimate destiny.

Humans are becoming whole, becoming realised in a Reality that was, is, and will be forever. Reality is, and we are That. We are not merely human.

Reality orders our existence as no human gods/God can. All is well.

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QUESTIONS & ANSWERS – 3 of 3

 

Q: How to communicate about such things if what one experiences in MER is altogether beyond communicating?

A: MER’s source, purpose, penetration and utility is ineffable – deliberately defying all human access and meddling. It is spontaneous, comes for no apparent logic or reason known to man and cannot be induced, evangelised or proselytised, in my understanding.That’s been my conclusion for a long time. Very frustrating for the merely curious.

Q: In my experience of what you call MER, all thinking ceased in terms of thinking about anything of my own volition. There was, suddenly, and with little warning, complete and utter emptiness within which perception continued, but it was perception without cognitive hooks; that is, perception did not trigger thought or internal dialogue at any level. If I were to attempt a description, I would describe it as an internal/external silence that had nothing to do with absence of sound. A ‘thought’ could arise, I remember, but it was alone and by itself in relation to what was required in any given moment, otherwise there was nothing. It was not my thought; there was no personal aspect, no sense of self, no sense of identity. Thought was not even an option; it was no more than an occurrence. There was just a continuum of silence carrying its own curious signature. I think this is where Merrell-Wolff made the mistake about High Indifference; it’s got nothing to do with ‘indifference’, which is a value-laden term with strong ego connotations. It has to do with experience, any experience, in terms of pure cognition rather than reflective, reflexive cognition: one simply becomes the stream of experience beyond the needs of conscious identification. What I perceived had nothing to do with trees or street; it was everything at once, and that included insights into things utterly beyond my conscious mind’s capacity to grasp. There was no sense of ‘grasping’ anything mentally; just a seeing into the very nature of existence. There was, I realised later, the possibility of a wholly new type of consciousness developing on the planet within which the limited perspective of the human mind had altogether vanished. That, I suspect, is somewhat near to what you mean by MER being experientially ‘nonhuman’, although I may be quite wrong in thinking so.

A: I had no sense of consciousness, or of being humanly conscious, in my experiences of MER. This makes me wonder if I was even human when I had them. What I was getting from the MERs was certainly not anything that could in any way be associated with or understood by the humankind I knew then or since.

I like your, “There was, I realised later, the possibility of a wholly new type of consciousness developing on the planet within which the limited perspective of the human mind had altogether vanished”. This conforms with some Sufi traditions about humanity’s evolutionary future. A philosopher friend of mine told someone else I’m hundreds of years ahead. I presume he mean’t because of my MER experiences. I just hope humans know more in a few hundred years than I do now …

Q: I refuse to teach; it attracts the needy to their detriment. I’m quite willing to talk when such talk is permissible and appropriate, but not at any other time except in the most general of terms. And so my life continues as it has always done, in the moment as best I can.

A: I’ve come to the conclusion real spiritual teachers can only relate to genuine Seekers, those who are readied almost despite themselves, who have begun to shuck the veils of humaness, presumably under the influence of the source of MER? This is another conundrum – what makes a Seeker, why them? Are they the ones who “hunger and seek after righteousness and truth” (whether they like it or not if my own experience of being a Seeker is anything to go by).

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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS – Part 2 of 2

 

Q: A single point: That which you seek, and that which seeks you are not necessarily the same thing. That which seeks you does not make, cannot make, decisions on your behalf.

Whatever you sense to be the case is, either consciously or unconsciously, your decision, not that of Ultimate Reality.

A: No. No human being is capable of “sensing” or “deciding” anything about the ultimate reality experienced by me or the experiencers who are subjects of the more than 6,000 cases being scientifically studied by the Hardy Foundation, or by the hundreds by Jefferey Martin from scientists around the world, or by the 300 or so studied and published by Sinetar. Our experiences were not our decision. We were not human in any sense when we had our experiences of ultimate reality, nor did we need to be or have to be. We were ultimate reality and ultimate reality was us.

There is nothing human that could imagine, grasp or conceive of ultimate reality without experiencing it, let alone conjure it up or even understand it if they could. UR exists completely independently of humans.

Q: We do not know Ultimate Reality in its own terms, as it actually is;

A: Yes we do!  This is exactly how experiencers know it.

Q: … to do so we would have to become the equivalent of Ultimate reality…

A: Exactly! And experiencers do become that while experiencing ultimate reality, before they slip back into the human experience … After that, the memory of the experience still develops, unveils within them.

Q: … and I’m sure that’s not how you perceive things to be.

A: But I do! Though a more correct word for “perceive” in this context would be, “know”.

Q: What we perceive as Ultimate Reality is always perceived, that is, it is, whether we like it or not, a ‘perceptual act’, and it has a context: you.

A: No. Ultimate Reality has no context yet known to man. It exists outside humaness or human experience.

Q: As for not staying around to help other human beings, that is a perfectly legitimate stance; but it is again a decision that you as a being who has experienced Ultimate Reality must have made at some point; it is not just something that happens of its own accord.

A: Yes it is, in my experience … No one on earth can invoke or evangelise it.

Q: Ultimate Reality’s push towards individual human beings (I’ve been working with this quite extraordinary set of affairs over the last months) has to do with complex forces and energies already working within a human being; it never comes out of nowhere for no reason.

A: Jesus is supposed to have said it did, not that that proves anything. but that point of view is echoed throughout the human history of “spirituality”.

Q: That would be a form of possession and it does not fit into any level of transcendent experience.

A: Possession is a human word, irrelevant in the experience of reality. The benign revelation of ultimate reality I know is much to be desired, at least in my case. I still mourn its passing.

Q: You can get knocked around quite a bit on occasions when the energies start to fly, but you are never overpowered without having, in some deep sense, invited the experience.

A: How can you invite something you never knew existed, or could ever have imagined or conceived? It’s not something that can be intellectually induced or conjured up. It’s not an hallucination. It’s completely uncalled for and mystifying. It neither asks for nor suggests or demands anything. It just reveals – in an exquisitely loving way with complete benignity and joy beyond human experience. It reveals that “All is Well”, though what that means I still cannot fully get my head around …

Neither do you ever experience anything so anomolous to direct experience of ultimate reality as “energies start to fly” nor are are you ever “knocked about” by the experience of Ultimate Reality. These human attributes are absolutely contrary to reality. They are not in any experiencer’s knowing or vocabulary; just the very antithesis in fact, not spiritual at all. They are not MER. Such violences sound as if they’re induced, ego driven, human mind stuff.

So far me saying , “That which I seek seeks me” is concerned, first of all I was a Seeker from birth I think, looking for meaning beyond the bewilderment of the temporary human condition. Then, I suppose, the Christian bible promise of “knock and it shall be opened” kicked in, if you believe in such things. I didn’t.

Whatever, since then nothing has been the same. The bewildering, sudden revelations beyond all human understanding, expectancy and expression came without bidding.

Now, I am content. Reality is enough.

The bad news is, humanity is incurable. The good news is, it’s terminal. 🙂

All is well.

 

KH:Nanaimo:May 2016

 

 

 

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS – Part 1 of 2

 

Q. Are you qualified to write about what you call The Mystical Experience of Reality?

A. I have no idea. I think about “Why me?” a lot.

The tradition is that there are no known human qualifications to have the experiences; not intelligence; education; culture; ethnicity, time in history; religious upbringing; age; morality and ethics; social; religious; or spiritual status.

The phenomena happened to me several times a year from the age of about 15 to 35. The major aspects of the experiences were being taken out of myself; a profound, all consuming and barely bearable joy; a total sense of being accepted, of having a permanent place in existence from the beginning to the end of existence (the alpha to the omega?); of being fully loved in a sense beyond human experience; having complete understanding, of everything as distinct from knowing; the ultimate assurance that All Is Well; a consuming personal humbleness and gratitude beyond my ability to describe in its validating fullness and renewal; an agony of loss as each of the all too brief experiences came to an end despite my best efforts to hold on to them as my true destiny.

I feel I am now much more than the mere experience of being human. I am growingly indifferent to my human condition.

So I can say, I am a mystic. My knowledge is from the Mystical Experience of Reality, (MER). All other context comes from human experience: books, TV, serious newspapers, magazines and scholarly papers, travel, talking, listening to people with intelligence and experience. I think, meditate, and listen to the (telepathic?) promptings which I presume all humans do, can do, or will do eventually.

I can also say I am not a master, not even a teacher. The real spiritual phenomena is far too subtle to teach, which would be very frustrating to any unfortunate pupils I would attract, and would test my pathetic patience to its unholy limits. Anyway, MER is caught, not taught.

I am also, however, a contemplative and a quietist which apparently is a ‘no-no’ in religious circles because quietists are called not to be engaged in distracting and largely inconsequential human affairs.

Whether all this makes me of a different species, (Dr. Marsha Sinetar) or whether it qualifies me for writing about MER I will leave to you to ponder.

Q. Why are you writing a blog on MER, what is the purpose?

A. This is two questions, and I don’t  have a sure answer for either.

Writers who are serious about the phenomena have brought the idea of “Messengers” to me, but if I am one of them the job description must still be on its way …

Others have urged me that getting the message out, communicating, is important.

But there is more in heaven earth than being merely human. Human destiny certainly hasn’t been left to humans.

The general public are sleepwalkers when it comes to real spiritual matters, not yet conscious – according to some masters who warn against disturbing that condition. Whatever, humans can’t evangelise MER.

Encouragingly however,  there are people out there who are “called” whether they recognise it or not. They will get there. There are no failures.

I only came out in public and to my friends with this Blog about eleven months ago, (April 2015).  It’s the only blog on the Internet given exclusively to MER by a mystic so far as I can tell.

I have never spoken about my experiences to anyone for 64 years so I dithered about doing it. Finally I felt prompted to give in, and lo and behold, it’s not too bad, not as rabble rousing as I feared it might be, quite ‘enlightening’ in fact!

I’m glad I’m doing it. It’s engaging me and others on levels I never foresaw, though nothing has changed dramatically in the rest of the world that I’m aware of yet. Over 1,000 people have visited the site already, 500 of them more than once. It has Followers. But I could have happily taken my secret to the grave.

I just hope the Blog is of relevance to Seekers, (those who are prompted to real spiritual experiences), or those who have already experienced MER and need reassurance, validation; as well as to those scholars and scientists now taking the phenomena seriously. If you’ve got this far in reading all this maybe you’re one or all of them?

KH: March 29 2016. Mysticexperiences.net