I always found it odd the Reality that showed Itself to me never showed anything whatsoever about being human Itself or for that matter about anything human, not even me as a human.
There was no evidence of the existence of humans, or anything else at all in my revelations.
Then the persistent notion arose in me that my revelations might be pure gnosticism.
That is, what gnostics and humans call God is only interested in the human condition. (Some say, is even responsible for the painful negativity and perennial chaos of the human condition).
That ‘God’ was not the ever expanding force of energy, of consciousness, knowing, being, that revealed itself to me!
So is what I experienced – Reality Iwhat the gnostics call ‘the hidden God’ that still spiritually dormant humans worship ?
In my experience this ‘God’ is not primarily interested in human wants, even worship or prayer, as humans have been given all they need.
So is this why I didn’t identify with gnosticism right from the start? My objection to identifying myself as ‘gnostic’ was born in my youth when a teacher mentioned gnostics. According to the Christian bible gnostics were observers of Jesus’ activities. That was the first time I’d heard of them. Mr Hammond said gnostics claimed direct experience of God.
That snapped my head – my experiences had just started. Mr Hammond stared at me and I stared back, but I left it at that.
I was in a turmoil. Was gnosticism what was happening to me? I began to check it out. So far so good.
But then my research led me into the darkness beyond any of my experiences – to ‘gnostic’ identities such as ‘pleroma’, ‘demiurges’, ‘archons’, ‘christ pancrator’ and ‘Barbelo’.
I would direct you to human sources to explain these phenomenons but I’m reluctant because I intuit they are more to do with the human ‘God’ mentioned in the third paragraph above, not the Reality of my experiences.
‘Gnosticism’ seems to have become just another human religion, though the basic claim of the difference between worldliness and another reality outside usual human experience is compatible with my direct experiences.
A giveaway of the modern adulteration of the gnostic experience is when they claim Reality is all about improving oneself. It isn’t.
Another indication of a non spiritual source insists there is human cultural gnosticism – Jewish gnosticism, Russian gnosticism, Christian gnosticism, etc., etc. This is not true. Reality is above and beyond all such impermanent human nonsense.
When you have the real mystic experience of Reality, (MER), you don’t care who you are – you know what you are!
Here is the Wikipedia summary of gnosticism:
“Gnosticism is a collection of religious ideas and systems that coalesced in the late 1st century AD among early Christian sects. These diverse groups emphasized personal spiritual knowledge above the proto-orthodox teachings, traditions, and authority of religious institutions. Gnostic cosmogony generally presents a distinction between a supreme, hidden God and a malevolent lesser divinity who is responsible for creating the material universe. Consequently, Gnostics considered material existence flawed or evil, and held the principal element of salvation to be direct knowledge of the hidden divinity, attained via mystical or esoteric insight. Many Gnostic texts deal not in concepts of sin and repentance, but with illusion and enlightenment. Gnostic writings flourished among certain Christian groups in the Mediterranean world around the second century, when the Early Church Fathers denounced them as heresy”.
Mystical Experiences of Reality 
“God, isn’t god a shit” – as Randolph Churchill once said. Went to my local high church evensong tonight and as usual the music was sublime. The sermon – well, how can these fellows believe in a benign god who created a world like ours….It’s a s**t hole….or at least we humans are. I’m not sure I believe in anything at all other than withdrawal and keeping my head well below the parapet.
Silently keeping myself to myself, and no longer wondering what it’s all about.
Works out rather well for me!
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Much is known about the spiritually aware experiencing the pull of Reality through solitude to Itself.
It seems when you’re still severely attached to humanity and its values the process can be lingeringly painful.
(Even the Christian bible says their god is a jealous god, if that’s any indication!).
Is your retreating attachment wrenching painful transient wounds, Anthony?
Sadly, it seems there are no recorded balms until Reality’s process is complete. Reality does not negotiate!
The literature on what you appear to be going through is plentiful but awful.
However, I can assert from experience, it works. We are eventually delivered to peace, contentment, even profound gratitude and humility. I was told and can accept there are no failures.
As ever, Keith.
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No wounds, no pain these days. Mostly just peace. I view humanity as an irrelevance much as you do and hope a better form of intelligence evolves. As to the day to day affairs on our cruel and foolish little planet, it doesn’t bother me much anymore. Violence and greed seem to be the hallmark of the unaware and the unevolved. The unwoken, the foolish, the unthinking. I’m pretty happy with where I’m at. I’m excited by all manners of things – the wonders of the universe, the discoveries to be made out there. I’m more and more of a secular Buddhist. I particularly like their idea of the universe (multiverse) having existed for ever, without a creator. I’m comfortable with that. That’s probably reality, and very wondrous indeed. While stuck here I am ever more determined to behave well – it seems to be the “right” thing to do. The anxieties of the past 69 years seem to have vanished. Mercifully
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The more I hear about Buddhism the more I learn how my experiences conform! For instance their experience of absolute emptiness. There was nothing whatsoever in my experiences but greyness. Quite depressing if not for the utter joy and belonging infusing me.
And something in me also responded when you wrote, “I particularly like their idea of the universe (multiverse) having existed for ever, without a creator.”
Your experience of buddhism has certainly worked for you. What a transformation!
As always,
Keith.
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Yes – the Buddhist experience of emptiness. Exactly – I have never seen a god. And I have looked, but nothing ever appeared. Maybe if one is a believer, the mind conjures one up? In my best experiences I have felt peace, ecstasy and understanding. But never a god. Although perhaps that’s what god is?
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Yes, I think the image of a human god was a way to popularise an experience that was after all as ineffable as it is now, ‘indescribable but undeniable” as Jan de Hartog put it. Dumbing down for the lowest common denominator, mind stuff.
Best,
Keith.
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I’m not sure I get any particular “message” benign or otherwise. Perhaps intuitively I feel that we are a small part of the random chaos around us and that we will disappear back into it very shortly. Whether “we” continue to exist doesn’t seem to bother me. For me at least, my route of secular Buddhism seems to have led to simple acceptance. To simply letting go. The relief from suffering is certainly there – perhaps the Buddha was just a good psychologist who recognised the physiological effects of meditation and deliberately realising his “truths”. I suspect one’s beliefs very enormously from person to person while an overarching sense of peace remains as an essential and gratifying result of spiritual practice. In an event, that’s where I am at. Not seeking to convince or persuade anyone, not laying down a doctrine. Just saying that my thoughts and actions have at last brought peace. That is quite enough for me!
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I read your piece. Slowly, carefully. And I’ll admit—there’s something in it that resonates. This sense that everything we believe, everything we cling to—names, gods, systems—is just scaffolding around something deeper.
But here’s the truth: I don’t know if there is anything deeper. Maybe we just want there to be. Maybe when we get quiet enough—really quiet—it feels like we’ve touched something eternal. But maybe that’s just the brain running out of things to say.
You say there was no self, no prayer, no belief. That it wasn’t even “you” who experienced it.
But who’s writing this, then?
Who’s the one comparing it to Gnosticism?
Who’s certain it wasn’t just another kind of dream?
I don’t say this to dismiss you. I say it because I’ve been close to that edge too. Where things fall away. Where meaning unravels. And I’ve wanted so badly for that to be something. Something real. Something true.
But afterward, I always wonder—did I discover something… or just lose my footing?
There’s a hunger in your words. A longing for a truth untouched by language or belief. I get that. I do.
But I also think: if it really was beyond all that, why do we keep talking about it?
Why do we keep trying to convince anyone—even ourselves—that it meant something?
Maybe it’s just what happens when everything else breaks down: we call the silence “Reality,” and pretend it smiled back.
But silence is silence. And it doesn’t ow
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“But here’s the truth: I don’t know if there is anything deeper.”
When you’ve been prepared by Reality for the mystical experience of Reality, (MER), you will know existence is not just about being human.
You sound as if you might be in the tangled throes of preparation. If so, I suggest you let go of self for the ineffable joy of being that’s coming. You’re caught.
Once you’ve had MER the conviction is indescribable and undeniable.
If my experiences are anything to go by we are here to harvest consciousness for the non-human, creative consciousness of Reality whether we know it or not or like it or not.
Best wishes,
Keith.
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My reply to the first Anonymous identified me correctly as Keith but not as the publisher of this blog, mysticexperiences.net. Word Press does that occasionally for reasons yet unknown …
Keith.
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