How does Jesus‘ mystic experience compare with modern mystic experience?
I asked Grok 3 to do a deep search on this question. Grok took 550 seconds to give a 30-page reply, from which I give its conclusion further down, but after my own conclusion first, as follows immediately:
My first reaction is that Jesus was bearing the obvious worldly consequences of evangelising his mystical experiences of Reality. He was not the only one, as witnessed throughout human history.
The experience of the phenomenon of the mystical experience of Reality quite understandably made recipients want to shout it from the rooftops.
But their mistiming of human preparedness had catastrophic results, (ironically, the necessity for such preparedness by Reality Jesus is said to have acknowledged elsewhere).
Were Jesus’ experiences different to mine in my more liberal times?
My experiences were spontaneous. They revealed Reality does not need us to interfere with Its timely evolutionary purposes, that All Is Well, we have been given all we need and Reality is not interested in our wants, nor seeks our worship. Reality gives. It does not bargain.
The following is Grok’s conclusion to its initial research, including an incorrect assumption of my “mystical perspective”:
Jesus’ cry, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” encapsulates the profound suffering of bearing humanity’s sins, fulfilling scripture, and identifying with human alienation, all while trusting in God’s ultimate deliverance. The theological interpretation sees it as part of substitutionary atonement, while the mystical perspective, resonant with Keith’s nondual insights, views it as a moment of surrender and unity, maintaining the Trinity’s oneness.* This dual understanding addresses the complexity and depth of the event, offering a comprehensive answer to your question.
* “…the mystical perspective, resonant with Keith’s nondual insights, views it as a moment of surrender and unity, maintaining the Trinity’s oneness“, is definitely not true! I do not view Jesus’ reported outcry “as a moment of surrender and unity maintaining the Trinity’s oneness”. Keith.
Then Grok reacted to my first introductory comments given above, as follows:
Jesus’ Mystical Experiences
Jesus’ mystical experiences, as documented in Christian scriptures, include key events like his baptism, where the Holy Spirit descended like a dove and a voice declared him God’s Son (Matthew 3:16-17, John 1:32-34), and the transfiguration, where his divine nature was revealed to Peter, James, and John (Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:2-8, Luke 9:28-36).
These events, central to Christian theology, were witnessed by disciples and are seen as demonstrations of his divine authority and Christ consciousness, aligning with sources like “The Mystical Teachings of Jesus” and Marilyn Flower’s Medium article, which describe Jesus as a mystic demonstrating a higher state of consciousness.
The Wikipedia page on Christian mysticism highlights these as foundational for later mystical practices, with the Gospel of John emphasizing God’s glory and agape love, and the Synoptic Gospels focusing on purity of heart and repentance.
The journal article “I Shall be Reckoned with the Gods” further identifies Jesus as a first-century Jewish mystic, suggesting his experiences were part of a broader mystical framework, potentially influencing early Christian beliefs.
Keith’s Mystical Experiences
Keith describes his experiences as spontaneous, revealing a nondual understanding of Reality where he is a “what” rather than a “who,” and that All Is Well, with Reality being a creative energy harvesting consciousness.
He notes these experiences do not require sharing, aligning with his pratyekabuddha path of silent witnessing, as mentioned in his blog mysticexperiences.net.
This contrasts with Jesus’ public sharing, reflecting Keith’s belief that Reality provides without bargaining and does not need human interference in its evolutionary purposes.
Reception During Jesus’ Time
The reception of Jesus’ mystical experiences during his time, around 2,000 years ago, was mixed, as evidenced by biblical accounts and scholarly interpretations.
The webpage “The stories of the people that Jesus meets in the Bible” details varied responses:
John the Baptist initially recognized Jesus as the Messiah but later doubted (Matthew 11:2-6), while disciples like Peter witnessed the transfiguration with awe but were instructed to keep silent until after the resurrection (Matthew 17:9).
Religious leaders, however, opposed him, leading to his trial and crucifixion (Matthew 26:57-68, John 18:12-24), as noted in the same source, reflecting societal unpreparedness for his message.
Sources like “Looking at Jesus’ Life as a Mystic” and “Mysticism: The Bridge Between Religion and Evolution” suggest his teachings were radical, challenging the status quo, which aligns with Keith’s observation of catastrophic results due to mistiming human preparedness.
The GotQuestions.org page on Christian mysticism notes that biblical Christianity involves spiritual experience but is intended for all, implying Jesus’ public sharing was part of his mission, contrasting with Keith’s private path.
Mainstream Christianity, as noted in “The Mystical Teachings of Jesus,” turned Jesus into an idol, hiding his example, which may reflect historical distortion rather than direct reception during his time.
The Christ myth theory, a minority view, suggests early Christianity started with collective mystical experiences, but this is less relevant to reception during Jesus’ life, as per Wikipedia.
Comparison with Keith’s Reception
Keith’s experiences, being spontaneous and not shared widely, avoid the public reception Jesus faced.
Living in more liberal times, as he mentions, Keith faces less external opposition, with his alienation being more internal or social, as discussed in previous conversations.
His pratyekabuddha path, revealed by Reality, means he does not evangelize, contrasting with Jesus’ mission to teach and save, which required public sharing and led to persecution.
The evidence leans toward historical differences in reception, with Jesus facing both acceptance (disciples, some crowds) and rejection (religious leaders, Roman authorities), while Keith’s private path avoids such public consequences.
This aligns with Keith’s insight that Reality does not need human interference, contrasting (comparing) with Jesus’ acknowledgement (of the need for human…) preparedness by Reality), as noted in his (Jesus’) teachings elsewhere.
Mystical Experiences of Reality 
To be honest, he was crucified and died. And that’s it. It is claimed he appeared back on earth again afterwards and that he was part of god or the trinity. As to the truth behind everyone other than his crucifixion, that’s a matter of pure belief. Personally I chose not to believe, but who knows. His words from the cross could just have been baffled disappointment – perhaps he believed he was the son of god and then doubted it when he was strung up in the hideous torture meeted out be the brutal Roman empire. All we can be more or less certain of is his historical existence. As to the rest of it? Perhaps he was no more (or less) special than anybody who believes he has had a mystical experience.
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It’s not just the Christians of course. All religions are full of bs, including Buddhism. Wishful thinking! And as I said above, perhaps JC thought he was in for an easier ride than he got. Assuming of course that the words from the cross are not apocryphal
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