Q: A single point: That which you seek, and that which seeks you are not necessarily the same thing. That which seeks you does not make, cannot make, decisions on your behalf.
Whatever you sense to be the case is, either consciously or unconsciously, your decision, not that of Ultimate Reality.
A: No. No human being is capable of “sensing” or “deciding” anything about the ultimate reality experienced by me or the experiencers who are subjects of the more than 6,000 cases being scientifically studied by the Hardy Foundation, or by the hundreds by Jefferey Martin from scientists around the world, or by the 300 or so studied and published by Sinetar. Our experiences were not our decision. We were not human in any sense when we had our experiences of ultimate reality, nor did we need to be or have to be. We were ultimate reality and ultimate reality was us.
There is nothing human that could imagine, grasp or conceive of ultimate reality without experiencing it, let alone conjure it up or even understand it if they could. UR exists completely independently of humans.
Q: We do not know Ultimate Reality in its own terms, as it actually is;
A: Yes we do! This is exactly how experiencers know it.
Q: … to do so we would have to become the equivalent of Ultimate reality…
A: Exactly! And experiencers do become that while experiencing ultimate reality, before they slip back into the human experience … After that, the memory of the experience still develops, unveils within them.
Q: … and I’m sure that’s not how you perceive things to be.
A: But I do! Though a more correct word for “perceive” in this context would be, “know”.
Q: What we perceive as Ultimate Reality is always perceived, that is, it is, whether we like it or not, a ‘perceptual act’, and it has a context: you.
A: No. Ultimate Reality has no context yet known to man. It exists outside humaness or human experience.
Q: As for not staying around to help other human beings, that is a perfectly legitimate stance; but it is again a decision that you as a being who has experienced Ultimate Reality must have made at some point; it is not just something that happens of its own accord.
A: Yes it is, in my experience … No one on earth can invoke or evangelise it.
Q: Ultimate Reality’s push towards individual human beings (I’ve been working with this quite extraordinary set of affairs over the last months) has to do with complex forces and energies already working within a human being; it never comes out of nowhere for no reason.
A: Jesus is supposed to have said it did, not that that proves anything. but that point of view is echoed throughout the human history of “spirituality”.
Q: That would be a form of possession and it does not fit into any level of transcendent experience.
A: Possession is a human word, irrelevant in the experience of reality. The benign revelation of ultimate reality I know is much to be desired, at least in my case. I still mourn its passing.
Q: You can get knocked around quite a bit on occasions when the energies start to fly, but you are never overpowered without having, in some deep sense, invited the experience.
A: How can you invite something you never knew existed, or could ever have imagined or conceived? It’s not something that can be intellectually induced or conjured up. It’s not an hallucination. It’s completely uncalled for and mystifying. It neither asks for nor suggests or demands anything. It just reveals – in an exquisitely loving way with complete benignity and joy beyond human experience. It reveals that “All is Well”, though what that means I still cannot fully get my head around …
Neither do you ever experience anything so anomolous to direct experience of ultimate reality as “energies start to fly” nor are are you ever “knocked about” by the experience of Ultimate Reality. These human attributes are absolutely contrary to reality. They are not in any experiencer’s knowing or vocabulary; just the very antithesis in fact, not spiritual at all. They are not MER. Such violences sound as if they’re induced, ego driven, human mind stuff.
So far me saying , “That which I seek seeks me” is concerned, first of all I was a Seeker from birth I think, looking for meaning beyond the bewilderment of the temporary human condition. Then, I suppose, the Christian bible promise of “knock and it shall be opened” kicked in, if you believe in such things. I didn’t.
Whatever, since then nothing has been the same. The bewildering, sudden revelations beyond all human understanding, expectancy and expression came without bidding.
Now, I am content. Reality is enough.
The bad news is, humanity is incurable. The good news is, it’s terminal. 🙂
All is well.